[Orgmode] Google Tech Talk

Post by Carsten Dominik
I was over at Google on Tuesday and gave a Google Tech Talk about Org-
mode.
If you are interested, I have put a link to the video on the Org-mode
home page.
Or go directly to youtube at
http://youtu.be/oJTwQvgfgMM

Hi Carsten! It's nice to finally see you :)

Even though I've been an org-mode user for years I listened to your
entire talk to see what else I could pick up and use and I wasn't
disappointed! Great job!

Thanks for the tip on replacing outline-mode with org-mode as the
default for my .txt files.

I also never use priorities. I've tried it a few times but always end
up turning it off and just scheduling the top priority things onto
today's agenda.

Thanks again for making this resource available!

Cheers!

-Bernt

Sivaram Neelakantan

2008-07-18 16:12:33 UTC

Post by Bernt Hansen

[...]

Second that. Good talk.

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2008-07-18 16:44:29 UTC

Post by Sivaram Neelakantan

Post by Bernt Hansen

[...]
Second that. Good talk.
sivaram

I think that was an excellent talk. I'll be recommending it in the
future.

I also advocate its worth learning emacs, just to use org-mode. ;]

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Russell Adams

2008-07-22 17:26:28 UTC

Regarding the Google Tech Talk, I've been considering giving a
presentation on org-mode to the local Linux Users Group.

There is no way I can top Carsten's presentation, so instead I'd like
to share the video with the group, and I'll be on hand to answer
questions and perform demonstrations.

I skimmed to the end to see the copyright, it wasn't specific about
public viewing (then again, its on YouTube!). I thought I'd ask if it
would be an issue.

My other thought was that other subscribers may have suggestions for
additional topics that would augment Carsten's incredible work. At
this point the best way I can add value is by answering questions in
person, but I would be open to suggestions.

Thanks.

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Carsten Dominik

2008-07-22 17:58:55 UTC

Hi Russel,

regarding the copyright, I cannot imagin this being a problem,
in particular if you pull up the live youtube page and view it
from there. If the quality is not enough for a big screen, you
could consider projecting the slides only which I have made
available as flash and PDF here:

http://orgmode.org/GoogleTech.html

Additional points:

My talk is clearly not complete, and once users are familar with
the basic concepts (on which my talks focuses), there is a lot
of room to add stuff. For example:

- Demo the construction of complex queries including tags,
properties, todo keywords. The demo could construct queries
simple at the prompt, or in the customize interface.
In fact, this is an area where a good tutorial still needs to
be written.

- Demo the search view which lets you query an outline tree like
a knowledge base.

- Export and publishing, I pretty much skimmed over that completely.

- Demo all kinds of customization stuff, for example setting the
TODO states, the tag interface (difference between completion
and the one-key-per-tag interface), STARTUP keywords for initial
visibility and other stuff.

- Demo logging of TODO-state changes.

- Demo clocking time, maybe together with effort estimates.

If you put a lot of work into it, consider taping yourself
and put the result up on youtube. :-)

Good luck!

- Carsten

Post by Russell Adams
Regarding the Google Tech Talk, I've been considering giving a
presentation on org-mode to the local Linux Users Group.
There is no way I can top Carsten's presentation, so instead I'd like
to share the video with the group, and I'll be on hand to answer
questions and perform demonstrations.
I skimmed to the end to see the copyright, it wasn't specific about
public viewing (then again, its on YouTube!). I thought I'd ask if it
would be an issue.
My other thought was that other subscribers may have suggestions for
additional topics that would augment Carsten's incredible work. At
this point the best way I can add value is by answering questions in
person, but I would be open to suggestions.
Thanks.
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Carsten Dominik

2008-07-22 19:09:47 UTC

One more thing, I am perfectly happy to give my slides also
as powerpoint or keynote formats to anyone interested to
uses them making a presentation about Org-mode. In fact, I have
just uploaded those files to http://orgmode.org/GoogleTech.html
as well.

- Carsten

Post by Carsten Dominik
Hi Russel,
regarding the copyright, I cannot imagin this being a problem,
in particular if you pull up the live youtube page and view it
from there. If the quality is not enough for a big screen, you
could consider projecting the slides only which I have made
http://orgmode.org/GoogleTech.html
My talk is clearly not complete, and once users are familar with
the basic concepts (on which my talks focuses), there is a lot
- Demo the construction of complex queries including tags,
properties, todo keywords. The demo could construct queries
simple at the prompt, or in the customize interface.
In fact, this is an area where a good tutorial still needs to
be written.
- Demo the search view which lets you query an outline tree like
a knowledge base.
- Export and publishing, I pretty much skimmed over that completely.
- Demo all kinds of customization stuff, for example setting the
TODO states, the tag interface (difference between completion
and the one-key-per-tag interface), STARTUP keywords for initial
visibility and other stuff.
- Demo logging of TODO-state changes.
- Demo clocking time, maybe together with effort estimates.
If you put a lot of work into it, consider taping yourself
and put the result up on youtube. :-)
Good luck!
- Carsten

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Memnon Anon

2008-07-23 00:56:41 UTC

Post by Russell Adams
I also advocate its worth learning emacs, just to use org-mode. ;]

Been there, still doing this ;)

While googling for some software, I found Sacha Chuas
Blog. She wrote quite a bit about planner and org-mode
and I thought: "This sounds nice. Vim can not do this ;("
So I installed emacs and used org for a while.
Now I am trying to learn more about emacs.
Still, it is quite a struggle ;)

Though there are some powerfull modes for emacs,
org-mode is the one keeping me sticking to it.

I wish everything would work so easy.

Thanks for this great Mode and this extraordinary
Mailinglist!

Jose Robins

2008-07-18 17:10:19 UTC

Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this group !! :)

Post by Carsten Dominik
Hi,
I was over at Google on Tuesday and gave a Google Tech Talk about
Org-mode.
If you are interested, I have put a link to the video on the Org-mode
home page.
Or go directly to youtube at
http://youtu.be/oJTwQvgfgMM
- Carsten
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Manish

2008-07-19 06:45:32 UTC

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this group !! :)

+1 :)

-- Manish

Ian Barton

2008-07-19 07:44:47 UTC

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this group !! :)

+1 :)

+2
Just a quick question about distributing the video. I know of people who
would be interested in watching it, but would rather download a file to
watch at their leisure, than see it on YouTube.

Is it possible to make the talk available as a download? If it helps I
already have it as a flash (.flv) file, as I wanted to keep it to watch
again. Subject to Carsten's and Google's agreement I would be happy to
make this available on my server for others to download.

Ian.

Carsten Dominik

2008-07-19 14:46:10 UTC

Hi Ian,

there are tons of utilities on the web to download a youtube video to a
computer. But I am not sure about the legalities, so I will not make a
downloaded version available. I am too happy about the existence of
this resource, so I don't want to piss people off by making a illegal
copy
available.

- Carsten

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this group !! :)

+1 :)

+2
Just a quick question about distributing the video. I know of people who
would be interested in watching it, but would rather download a file to
watch at their leisure, than see it on YouTube.
Is it possible to make the talk available as a download? If it helps I
already have it as a flash (.flv) file, as I wanted to keep it to watch
again. Subject to Carsten's and Google's agreement I would be happy to
make this available on my server for others to download.
Ian.
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Carsten Dominik

2008-07-19 14:56:29 UTC

I just looked into it some more, and it seems that downloading
is in fact not allowed. So lets not do this.

- Carsten

Post by Carsten Dominik
Hi Ian,
there are tons of utilities on the web to download a youtube video to a
computer. But I am not sure about the legalities, so I will not make a
downloaded version available. I am too happy about the existence of
this resource, so I don't want to piss people off by making a
illegal copy
available.
- Carsten

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this
group !! :)

+1 :)

+2
Just a quick question about distributing the video. I know of
people who
would be interested in watching it, but would rather download a file to
watch at their leisure, than see it on YouTube.
Is it possible to make the talk available as a download? If it helps I
already have it as a flash (.flv) file, as I wanted to keep it to watch
again. Subject to Carsten's and Google's agreement I would be happy to
make this available on my server for others to download.
Ian.
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Ian Barton

2008-07-19 15:12:57 UTC

OK, I can understand Google's reasons for not allowing downloading. I
presume that the video remains available indefinitely on YouTube. In
fact many Google Tech talk videos do eventually become available for
download from Google themselves.

Ian.

Post by Carsten Dominik
I just looked into it some more, and it seems that downloading
is in fact not allowed. So lets not do this.
- Carsten

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this group !! :)

+1 :)

+2
Just a quick question about distributing the video. I know of people who
would be interested in watching it, but would rather download a file to
watch at their leisure, than see it on YouTube.
Is it possible to make the talk available as a download? If it helps I
already have it as a flash (.flv) file, as I wanted to keep it to watch
again. Subject to Carsten's and Google's agreement I would be happy to
make this available on my server for others to download.

Carsten Dominik

2008-07-19 15:20:39 UTC

Post by Ian Barton
OK, I can understand Google's reasons for not allowing downloading. I
presume that the video remains available indefinitely on YouTube. In
fact many Google Tech talk videos do eventually become available for
download from Google themselves.

Really? Can you send me an example link? Then I could check with the
Google people.

- Carsten

Post by Ian Barton
Ian.

Post by Carsten Dominik
I just looked into it some more, and it seems that downloading
is in fact not allowed. So lets not do this.
- Carsten

Post by Jose Robins
Awesome job, Carsten!! You were every bit as gracious and great as I
imagined you in my mind based on all your emails in this
group !! :)

+1 :)

+2
Just a quick question about distributing the video. I know of people who
would be interested in watching it, but would rather download a file to
watch at their leisure, than see it on YouTube.
Is it possible to make the talk available as a download? If it helps I
already have it as a flash (.flv) file, as I wanted to keep it to watch
again. Subject to Carsten's and Google's agreement I would be happy to
make this available on my server for others to download.

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Bastien

2008-07-19 15:27:21 UTC

Really? Can you send me an example link? Then I could check with the
Google people.

Take Merlin Mann's talk, for example:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=973149761529535925

On the top right frame, there is a link "Download - iPod/PSP".
Clicking on it let you download the talk in .mp4 format.

Maybe they don't offer this service for newer talks because they are
slowly moving people from Google video to Youtube? Not sure though.

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Carsten Dominik

2008-07-19 15:40:56 UTC

Ah yes, I see this. Maybe this will come automatically eventually.

I'll check.

- Carsten

Post by Bastien

Post by Ian Barton
OK, I can understand Google's reasons for not allowing
downloading. I
presume that the video remains available indefinitely on YouTube. In
fact many Google Tech talk videos do eventually become available for
download from Google themselves.

Really? Can you send me an example link? Then I could check with the
Google people.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=973149761529535925
On the top right frame, there is a link "Download - iPod/PSP".
Clicking on it let you download the talk in .mp4 format.
Maybe they don't offer this service for newer talks because they are
slowly moving people from Google video to Youtube? Not sure though.
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Sivaram Neelakantan

2008-07-19 16:28:19 UTC

Post by Carsten Dominik
Ah yes, I see this. Maybe this will come automatically eventually.
I'll check.
- Carsten

[...]

Well, this free player supports viewing youtube and google videos on
the PC. Must be legal as they'd been sued by now if it wasn't.

http://www.getmiro.com/

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build software and websites to create an independent, creative,
engaging, and meritocratic TV system for millions of people around the
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Ian Barton

2008-07-19 17:09:10 UTC

It seems that only the videos hosted on http://video.google.com offer
downloads.

A bit of research with my Python example shows it hosted on several
Google sites, but only video.google offers downloading.

Ian.

Post by Bastien

Really? Can you send me an example link? Then I could check with the
Google people.

Ian Barton

2008-07-19 16:54:42 UTC

Here is a Python one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1189446823303316785

Note the Download video - iPod/PSP link on the Details tab.

Ian.

Really? Can you send me an example link? Then I could check with the
Google people.
- Carsten

Leo

2008-07-20 16:56:03 UTC

Congratulations on this ;)

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